Hi all,
Today, I tried to run OM 11.02 Beta but not able to launch the app as usual.
When I launch the app, it suddenly closed. Why ??
Few days ago the app worked like a charm. No update in meantime.
Is my problem related to the beta version ?? Or is there something wrong ?
Anyone can tell me if the beta version 11.02 beta 04 is still working at this time.
Thanks in advance.
Isa
Quote from: isa01 on November 09, 2025, 07:27:13 PMHi all,
Today, I tried to run OM 11.02 Beta but not able to launch the app as usual.
When I launch the app, it suddenly closed. Why ??
Few days ago the app worked like a charm. No update in meantime.
Is my problem related to the beta version ?? Or is there something wrong ?
Anyone can tell me if the beta version 11.02 beta 04 is still working at this time.
Thanks in advance.
Isa
Hello, the beta version has expired, for everyone. You can use the official version of Google Store for your activities.
That's a legitimate answer, but what's important is that the GP version is more than a year old. I have it installed on my old phone and have been using the beta version all along for testing purposes. Now I'm traveling and don't have the app! It's my fault, I know that, but I'm still completely disappointed with the situation with this app. Orux used to be a model of cooperation, even on the forum, but now he can be seen here once on a month or two. Opinions, suggestions, bug reports are no longer even looked at, and the result is that for the first time in all the long years since I've been using OruxMaps, it no longer works for me. Once again, I'm talking about the beta version. Personally, I was willing to pay for the beta version too, just so that it would work without restrictions and wouldn't have to have two identical apps - and to have updated app. For orux, the situation may be stable and okay, but for me as a user for a long years (and probably for others too), it is not. It's not a problem to install GP app on new phone, I generally do not like, that app looks abandoned.
It seems that the time has come when, unfortunately, it will be necessary to look for an alternative.
It's really disappointing how oruxmaps is slowly changing for the worse!
For a long time, it was a really nice and powerful alternative to all the commercial products—not a completely free, open-source, and strictly privacy-compliant project, as I personally prefer, but still somehow acceptable—but now this seems to be more of a nostalgic sentiment from the past...
What surprises me is the user of OruxMaps, if the free version of the official website is deleted he complains, giving as a reason to be a complete and functional version for the vast majority of users, being the GP version much superior to it. If the beta version expires, and he complains because the GP version does not seem enough.... The vast majority of you are older than me using this app and the forum, maybe I'm the wrong one to think that I can't find another app that offers me the same for so little. I'm still surprised that the truth is demanded so much from a project supported by man in his free time. It's my humble opinion
[cita autor=enlace de Tronpo=msg=60148 fecha=1762773363] Lo que me sorprende es que el usuario de OruxMaps, si se elimina la versión gratuita del sitio web oficial, se queja, dando como razón para ser una versión completa y funcional para la gran mayoría de los usuarios, siendo la versión GP muy superior a ella. Si la versión beta caduca, y se queja porque la versión GP no parece suficiente... La gran mayoría de ustedes son mayores que yo usando esta aplicación y el foro, tal vez estoy equivocado al pensar que no puedo encontrar otra aplicación que me ofrezca lo mismo por tan poco. Todavía me sorprende que la verdad se exija tanto de un proyecto apoyado por un hombre en su tiempo libre. Es mi humilde opinión [/cita]
Personally I would be delighted to pay an annual subscription in OruxMaps as it is done in other apps with the idea of guaranteeing regular updates (bug fixes) and support in the forum For example
Quote from: mash-graz on November 10, 2025, 09:35:07 AMIt's really disappointing how oruxmaps is slowly changing for the worse!
For a long time, it was a really nice and powerful alternative to all the commercial products—not a completely free, open-source, and strictly privacy-compliant project, as I personally prefer, but still somehow acceptable—but now this seems to be more of a nostalgic sentiment from the past...
Hello mash-graz,
even though I can understand a certain disappointment, that is a very harsh statement. The current GP version - although it is over a year old - still works great and, in my opinion, is better than most or even all apps of this kind - but that is a matter of taste.
I have also mainly used the beta versions and I think it's a pity that certain functions and improvements (track manager, route planner ...) that I have become accustomed to are currently no longer available. However, that is one of the risks of using a beta.
I also wished, José (Orux) could find the time to be more active in the forum or at least could provide us with any updates on the status of development. But I'm sure he has his reasons, and I hope he and his family are doing well.
Nevertheless, the current GP version is still an excellent tool for a small one-time payment.
Quote from: mash-graz on November 10, 2025, 09:35:07 AMIt's really disappointing how oruxmaps is slowly changing for the worse!
For a long time, it was a really nice and powerful alternative to all the commercial products—not a completely free, open-source, and strictly privacy-compliant project, as I personally prefer, but still somehow acceptable—but now this seems to be more of a nostalgic sentiment from the past...
(https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgx9T5FM03RtuFBHIvB542iIe0DPHYzKaHQUtsfyLQaxEB3yelSTktTnGGqv8JvT7atTV_c4o2tK3ENi0tlllVKz_q0ezEQwd0W3AEa0-0njnXRime5kPE7Ne-qgMuyjjmGUqX-pb8GBkgVsLLnQIg49nDJ5qGQaBC1zPKv_Nz364wNU0-OYsboEHQmOqyD/s1170/IMG_0555.jpeg)
What do you think of this? I usually visit the forum 2 times a day every day (habits) and there is never so much expectation ... maybe the OruxMaps user should also reflect, since we ask for a better application and greater response ... that we can do as users to make it easier for OruxMaps to grow. The beta is to test new functions , not to have a free premium app. In my opinion, this policy must change to continue growing
I don't like that the app disables itself if a new version isn't installed there is much better ways of handling this like annoying popups, I was on a remote trail and went to check my maps but got the ui close.
Then when I got back I tried to migrate all my data back to the gp version but when I uninstalled the beta somehow all my data got erased, years of tracks and photos I managed to undelete some but the file names were erased so they will never get back into orux.....
Deciding if I should switch to locus since I am pretty much starting over....
All this cause of the forceclose.
[cita autor=odin enlace=msg=60153 fecha=1763017027] No me gusta que la aplicación se desactive sola si no se instala una nueva versión, hay formas mucho mejores de manejar esto, como ventanas emergentes molestas, estaba en un rastro remoto y fui a revisar mis mapas, pero me acerqué la interfaz de usuario. Luego, cuando volví, intenté migrar todos mis datos a la versión gp, pero cuando desinstalé la versión beta, de alguna manera todos mis datos se borraron, años de pistas y fotos, logré deshacer algunos, pero los nombres de los archivos se borraron, por lo que nunca volverán a orux... Decidiendo si debería cambiar a locus, ya que estoy empezando de nuevo... Toda esta causa del cierre de la fuerza. [/cita]
Hello, the beta version has been warning for weeks that it will expire with a pop-up window at each login, didn't you skip the warning? On my Android when I go to delete the app it asks me if I want to delete the data from the app. Personally I would not leave my valuable data in an app that is a trial version, precisely because it is a trial version all the risks it entails.
PS: I'm sorry you lost your valuable data honestly, don't you use the backup option in Drive?
Quote from: Tronpo on November 13, 2025, 09:19:27 AM[cita autor=odin enlace=msg=60153 fecha=1763017027] No me gusta que la aplicación se desactive sola si no se instala una nueva versión, hay formas mucho mejores de manejar esto, como ventanas emergentes molestas, estaba en un rastro remoto y fui a revisar mis mapas, pero me acerqué la interfaz de usuario. Luego, cuando volví, intenté migrar todos mis datos a la versión gp, pero cuando desinstalé la versión beta, de alguna manera todos mis datos se borraron, años de pistas y fotos, logré deshacer algunos, pero los nombres de los archivos se borraron, por lo que nunca volverán a orux... Decidiendo si debería cambiar a locus, ya que estoy empezando de nuevo... Toda esta causa del cierre de la fuerza. [/cita]
Hello, the beta version has been warning for weeks that it will expire with a pop-up window at each login, didn't you skip the warning? On my Android when I go to delete the app it asks me if I want to delete the data from the app. Personally I would not leave my valuable data in an app that is a trial version, precisely because it is a trial version all the risks it entails.
PS: I'm sorry you lost your valuable data honestly, don't you use the backup option in Drive?
Nah, I have slow internet and especially slow upload, so I don't back up to drive, I did actually have a recent backup, but the harddrive failed that was on last month :X, and tbh it's kind of my fault I lost the data, since usually I rename the folder when I uninstall orux as it happened before in the past, somehow I just spaced it out, I don't think it used to an issue when it was on the sdcard/oruxmaps, but when its in the data/media folder it uninstalls with the program.
I probably could've recovered the files, but again I stupidly wrote a 1gb mapsforge map to the sdcard which ultimately permanently erased some files which probably could have been undeleted, I was able to salvage most tracklogs and tracklog.db though.
I dont recall getting the old beta message on the latest beta, it's been a week or two since I used orux, maybe it expired before it could show the message, but yeah I like orux but just stopping the program from running is not a good tactic especially for scenarios / lost/ sos ..etc and the gap between the GP and beta is pretty large so to migrate back is a pity, and running two versions is a hassle.
Also it's a shame orux couldn't implement some mechanism in the beta which allows it to continue to run for people who bought the GP version, this way the beta wouldn't expire for paid users who want to stay on the latest version.
" Also it's a shame orux couldn't implement some mechanism in the beta which allows it to continue to run for people who bought the GP version, this way the beta wouldn't expire for paid users who want to stay on the latest version."
This would be possible if the beta versions were made from stores like Play Store, in my personal opinion it is the best, for security of not installing apk, because in this way they would mess up users who have the official version. But it's just my opinion. The only drawback I see is that the beta update process is not immediate when going through the official stores. I'm glad to know that you've recovered practically all your data. Greetings
I am very disappointed with the situation we find ourselves in. All of us who participated in the beta version (and also have the GP version) invested our time and energy in anticipation of a new, stable version—one that would be better, more advanced, and have new features. Now we have nothing. The beta no longer works, and the GP version has not been updated in over a year.
Since I have been using exclusively the beta version (I only have the GP version on my old phone) in real-life situations, I have been able to test it thoroughly (at least to the extent that I use it). Now I am in a serious dilemma - whether to install the old GP version and thus take a step back in a way, or to end the OruxMaps story.
Even what we are writing now is pointless, as Orux has not been on the forum for some time.
I don't agree with those messages here in this thread, that more or less just suggest: buy the commercial product!
Once upon a time Oruxmap was available to everybody in two versions: a free one and a paid one to support the development willingly.
When the free variant didn't receive updates for quite a while, the author argued, that he isn't able to provide a give-away variant anymore, because Google doesn't allow free distribution beside the commercial one on their marked store. In the meanwhile it even got further and this 'beta' version is understood by many users [or at least some loud peer leaders here in the forum] as just a limited demo version and appetizer for buying the commercial offer.
Well -- because it's just one of this very common closed source apps, that isn't protected by a more restrictive license (like the GPL) preventing this kind of change, it's completely up to the author and his arbitrary decisions to make leave access available or enforce an utterly changed new business plan.
As ordinary user, we can't do much more than express our feelings about this steady slow and silent changes. Nevertheless, they are significant, and I personally would prefer, when the author and entrepreneur would at least communicate this kind of decisions and consequences for the user community in a more open and fair manner.
I'm well aware about the difficulties to make a living from free software development. Nevertheless, I spend already decades of my life in this alternative software circles myself -- don't use any commercial or unfree closed source software on my Linux machines and even my mobile phone is based on degoogled /e/ (https://e.foundation/), where you don't have access to products of the play store but gain much more security and privacy freedom in return. Instead of just consuming ready-made software products I always try to justify my use of all these free gifts by participating In many open development projects and community activities -- for example as OSM-mapper, rewriting parts the QGIS-xyz-export-plugin to produce maps for Orux, etc.
Many projects were looking for solutions, how to make consumers happy, which only want to buy easily usable software somewhere in a trustworthy online shop, and those others, which are more interested in security and privacy preserving open source software and public access. For example OsmAnd~ is selling the advanced edition commercially on the play store, but the same software is also still available for free without any restrictions on FDroid. Only a comparable small community of people is using the latter one, but this scene is rather close related to those open source developers, which wrote many of those very valuable code libraries, that in fact any mapping app nowadays is based on. So it's a more fair exchange in return to those non-profit developers and their alternative software communities than just an utterly stupid irrational choice.
I'm very skeptical about the commercial success of Orux e.g. on the iPhone. In the meanwhile it's a rather old-fashioned looking app that honestly isn't super easy to use, and beside the help by the community here in the forum it's just a one-man show with insufficient documentation. Sure, It has it's very important unique qualities (for example: It's using less power than all other open source alternatives), but it's nothing that couldn't be quickly replaced by other more open apps, if users have to react to those subsequent commercialization changes made by its author.
Because it's still strictly closed software I can't do much more than openly express my opinion and skepticism about its future. But perhaps it's anyway too late for a change. Oruxmaps could definitely have become the most well known and feature full free android mapping app if it had opened its development earlier. In the meanwhile there are already a few open source alternatives available, that look much more modern and promising in this respect.
Although I personally don't believe in its commercial success, I still wish its author good luck on his efforts. Nevertheless, if he refuse to listen to us, I'll take another way and search for alternatives, that better suit my needs.
The last message in this forum from José was on Juli 24.
Instead of blaming you might better worry that he is still alive. Who knows: Maybe he had an accident or is severely ill.
Lets hope the best!
he was last active on 27th of October 2025
Quote from: mash-graz on November 14, 2025, 08:59:39 AMfor example as OSM-mapper, rewriting parts the QGIS-xyz-export-plugin to produce maps for Orux, etc.
Sorry for the off-topic but it isn't entirely off-topic. At the beginning of the year I wasted two months trying to switch to Linux. Despite really liking the Gnome workflow I eventually went back to Windows, amongst other things, because I'm stuck with QGIS 3.28 exactly because the XYZ export is seriously broken in later versions *and* installing an older version with the repository system was a PITA, and let's not even talk about making a backup copy of the app. With the evil, closed source, Windows I just run an installer from my archive and I'm done. I filed an issue about this on GitHub (https://github.com/qgis/QGIS/issues/62319) and nobody cared. This is to say, it's not that opensourcing something automagically solves every problem, or grants that a project goes forward: ask Tilemill users for reference. I have serious doubts that someone would pick up the job for free if Jose opensourced the app.
QuoteI'm stuck with QGIS 3.28 exactly because the XYZ export is seriously broken in later versions
My personal contribution to this particular plugin is already a while ago:
https://github.com/lutraconsulting/qgis-xyz-tiles/issues/30
https://github.com/qgis/QGIS/issues/32471
https://github.com/qgis/QGIS/pull/32499
QuoteI wasted two months trying to switch to Linux. Despite really liking the Gnome workflow I eventually went back to Windows, amongst other things, because...
I only use [debian] Linux and in case of QGIS always the most recent upstream versions. It usually works more or less acceptable, but not all QGIS plugins made by various authors are of perfect quality. Often they don't play well with all releases and on all operating systems.
QuoteThis is to say, it's not that opensourcing something automagically solves every problem, or grants that a project goes forward.
Sure! It's not granted. But if a project attracts competent users, there are always some of them reporting issues and others fixing one or the other bug or adding a missing feature whenever they are interested in a particular topic.
You can't enforce this kind of voluntary participation and code contribution by any form of pressure, but it's an unmistakable sign of healthy open source projects. It's a very complex dynamic system of mutual exchange, perhaps harder to cultivate and keep growing than just lonesome and silently writing code.
Hello Orux and DevTeam,
I would like to buy the new version 11.xx, but on the Google Play I cannot get/find it.
Can you help me about?
Thanks and regards, Andrea
I'd also like to know if the app is still active. It's a shame the author isn't communicating about it; a quick message to his fans wouldn't take much time or energy and could quickly put an end to the questioning. That being said, I hope he's doing well.
AFAIK the iOS version got an update recently, so I suppose the project is still alive. If you read the last messages from Orux on the forum I think it' pretty clear the current slowdown in developement is mostly due to lack of time and issues in dealing with Google.
Hi, it's been a long time since the last update, and the filtering criteria for climber segments (very useful in cycling) in the GP app are quite limited. It currently offers only two options:
minimum segment distance (in meters)
minimum segment grade (in %)
It would be necessary to add the following configurable fields:
minimum elevation gain (to select, for example, segments with at least 30 m of climbing)
allowed descent, to configure, for instance, up to 5 m of downhill within a climbing segment
I actually bought the GP version mainly for the climber segments, but since the beta version was more complete, I kept using the beta — although now the beta no longer works for me.
Orux, could you give any estimate of when the next GP update will be released? Thank you.
If I'm not mistaken, Orux's last post dates back to July 24, 2025. That's a really long time since his last communication. If the iOS version has had a recent update, I understand even less why José isn't keeping Android users informed about future developments to his application.
[cita autor=Sandy link=msg=60199 fecha=1770174825] OruxMaps ESTÁ MUERTO. Lo siento, tenía todo el entendimiento si las cosas "simplemente tardan más" debido a la familia, la salud o lo que sea. ¡Pero todavía debe haber tiempo para publicar al menos 1 o 2 oraciones cada POCOS MESES! No he oído nada en absoluto de Orux, las versiones Beta han caducado, ya no hay una versión gratuita disponible y la versión de Google Play de septiembre de 2024, sin ninguna actualización, este proyecto está HECHO. Es triste, estuvo bien, pero se acabó. Toda esperanza se ha ido, un proyecto y un foro como está ahora ya no tiene sentido. Quería comprar OruxMaps para 2 personas, pero por supuesto no lo haré para el software muerto, que ya no está actualizado y en Google Play es mucho más antiguo / con menos funcionalidad que las Betas. Espero que al menos el propio Orux esté bien. [/cita]
Hello, in part I understand your frustration, but I do not share it in its entirety, I will not go into details about the silence of Orux or the functionalities of the official version, but if I would like to express that this forum continues to maintain its function as it is to help us between users, many new users or with less experience will come looking for solutions to their doubts, basic or complex doubts without having to do with actions, and as always veteran users will try to solve their doubts and problems as has always happened. There are many users who do not need more than the app has been doing for many, many years. Greetings. I respect your point of view, sincerely.
Quote from: Sandy on February 04, 2026, 04:13:45 AMOruxMaps IS DEAD. Sorry, ...
Yes, I have to agree and I already wanted to write a very similar final summary a few days ago.
It's a rather sad time for all of us looking for
acceptable "free" (<=in the GNU sense) outdoor mapping solutions:
* Oruxmaps finally collapsed after a long process of successive enshittification (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enshittification).
* OsmAnd~ still doesn't support custom made offline maps in a comfortable manner and wastes too much battery while recording tracks.
* CoMaps [like so many other road and car-oriented navigation solutions for inhabitants of a flat earth] still doesn't come with hill shading and similar essential features required for adventures out in the wild.
* Trekarta had to stop the development mainly because of stupid political reasons (https://github.com/andreynovikov/trekarta/).
etc.
But I found at least one rather new and unknown multiplatform map viewer project, that could perhaps be of interest to other ex-Oruxmap users as well: Ascend Maps (https://github.com/styluslabs/maps). It's a really crazy project! It uses a set of extraordinary minimalist software components and Tangram-ES map rendering at its core to create a very efficient and resource saving application. It's running and looking the same on Android, iPhone, Windows, OSX, and Linux. Well, it's definitely not the perfect choice for everyone (e.g., you have to edit some important preferences by text editor in YAML config files, etc. ;)), but it's nevertheless a very powerful and flexible tool. I personally only have some doubts concerning actually chosen technical ingredients and development decisions, but I may be wrong in this regard.
Please folks, be kind.
Jose has always been clear about his passion and dedication to this project. I don't know what's going on, and I don't feel like asking, but I'm sure that if he pauses it he has very good reasons and he will do anything he can to keep the project alive. The current version costs next to nothing, works very well and will likely continue to do so for the foreseable future, I really see no reason to complain. You don't like it? Just switch to something else, if you can find it, or build your own.
Thank you Maki, I can't agree more, I also don't understand this interest in giving up an app that works well, an iOS version is being developed which makes me understand that the project is not dead. Obviously each user is free to use the app they want, but talking without knowledge of the cause only confuses other users. If you find alternatives that you like, use them if the actuality of orux is not enough for you. Meanwhile, there are users who continue to enjoy and learn from everything that OruxMaps already does.
Because I was looking for some very old postings, where I asked the author of oruxmaps about open source access to the code base, I used the archive.org wayback machine (https://web.archive.org/web/20260000000000*/http://oruxmaps.com/) to compare the public self-presentation of this software by watching the changes on its homepage from 2012 up to now.
It's fascinating. For a very long time it looked and promised always just the same:
Always this link to the newest test/development version in larger letters than the play store and previous public variant.
And this unmistakable sentence: "OruxMaps is a FREE application [...]"
Well, the author of oruxmaps always had a slightly different understanding of the term 'FREE' than richard m. stallman, but as capable developer of his time he was at least aware, that writing brilliant software isn't just a question of successful business and therefore emphasized this little unspectacular word in his announcements, too.
I was always a bit unhappy about this situation, because otherwise I really try to use only software of this other kind of "free" open source software on my linux boxes and /e/.os driven phones, but oruxmaps and its author looked at least somehow trustworthy and acceptable as a real world compromise.
This worked for a very long time.
But it was definitely a time before some fanboys have taken over this forum, speak like the one and only voice to represent this project and refuse any other critical point of view.
Different also from those days, when oruxmaps was not only seen as a commercial offer, but more as a nice software full of features, which has its value in itself -- just like many other brilliant "free" software (e.g. the linux operating system I'm using to write this message...).
Sure, things are changing... but not always to the better...
Aaaa then the problem is that there is no longer a free product....for me it's all said. Regarding what can be referred to, my interventions only seek to help and collaborate with the project, help those who expose a problem and collaborate by reporting errors and proposals for improvement. I make several products in order to improve or make easier this app that I am also passionate about for others, without any profit or recognition. Fortunately, I still have a lot to learn. I respect all points of view, believe me.
Quote from: Tronpo on February 10, 2026, 05:30:33 AMAaaa then the problem is that there is no longer a free product...
I wouldn't say "free
product", because this sound more like a contradiction to me. One important aspect of
freedom in software use and ownership simply has to be seen in the fact, that users are able to change, debug, refine and work themselves on the computer programs they use.
That was once in the past the original motivation behind the proclamation of the GNU manifesto -- a broken printer driver, that couldn't be fixed by its
owner, because the code wasn't available.
But what's perhaps more important, this kind of rather restrictive copyleft licenses really worked in practice to protect at least some extraordinary valuable software projects over decades against silently and slowly change over time in a very similar way like this particular project here in question, which now isn't seen as anything else than an arbitrary "commercial product" by some of us.
Thank you for the clarification sincerely. For me, whether the product is paid or free does not influence its quality. Whether it is open source or not depends on the creator, I simply as a user do not enter into this policy about the work of others, if I like it I use it if I don't like it I don't use it. This is simply my position I do not ask that it be that of the rest, if at any time it was misunderstood I apologise. At all times I try to respect the work and the opinion of others. The only job I can price or give for free is my own.
There's free as in speech and free as in beer. And there is free as in "if you don't like this you are free to switch to something else", this is not a printer driver or OEM software that forces you to throw away some piece of hardware. And good luck with FOSS, I've lost count of dead projects on that side.
It's astonishing to see how people turns can against a nice person for egoistic reasons. For all we can know Jose can be in big trouble and all you folks care about is your little app. Please quit bitching.
FREE has two completely different meanings.
In french, we have two words : "Libre" and "Gratuit".
Applied to a software, "Libre" means what Richard Stallman describe, and José never said that OruxMaps was a Free (Libre) Software, but always said that it was what is commonly called a "Proprietary Software" (ie. the opposite of a "Free (libre) software").
It is his absolute right, and if someone is not happy with that, he is not obliged to use it...
For the second meaning, yes, in the past, Oruxmaps was free (gratuit), ie no payment was required to use it.
An this time too, it is the absolute right of José to change this aspect of his tool.
Personally, I regret it, and I remember that in a past discussion on this forum with José, I tried to convince him that let Oruxmaps free (gratuit), and ask to users a voluntary contribution could be even more "profitable" for him (and surely less profitable for Google, that wouldn't have any more its commission...).
José answered me that his experience was different, and that he never got as much money with voluntary contributions than with required payment...
Moreover, he explained me that when he began OruxMaps, he was young and free in his life (3rd meaning of "Free"...), but now was in couple, and had a child with major health problems, and so he didn't see the things the same way than before...
Maybe he regretted afterwards to have been so "personal" in his answer... Anyway, this exchange has been removed since from the forum...
And, BTW, I hope that his silence is not due to a more dramatic problems with his child...
My conclusion: Oruxmaps is a fantastic tool. Even if we all have some ideas that could improve it.
And since we find it fantastic, let's use it with pleasure, and a big big thank you to José.
Otherwise, you're all free to go your own way and use whatever you want (good luck to find as good as OM ;) )
Orux was active on the forum on January 6th, 2026, and I see there's an updated version of OM on the Apple Store from January 2026, so he's obviously still around.
You guys have shared a lot of thoughts on the current situation. I've used OM for at least 10 years, if not more, and it's a great piece of software. It's solely Orux's decision how he handles the Android app, but what I don't find fair to the users (especially those of us who participated in beta development with bug reports and suggestions all these years) is this silence.
A short statement like "OM is dead" or "OM is on hold" would stop the guesswork and give us a clear picture for future decisions. At least for me, bad information is better than no information at all.